Thomas Sayers, 18871964 (aged 76 years)

Baptism April 1, 1887 35 24 (aged )

Birth June 27, 1887 36 24
Occupation
Farmer

Birth of a brotherDenis Sayers
February 15, 1889 (aged 1 year)
Baptism of a brotherDenis Sayers
February 16, 1889 (aged 1 year)

Birth of a sisterCatherine Sayers
January 24, 1891 (aged 3 years)
Note: Civil record says

Civil record says Kate 10 Apr 1891 Knockavrogeen Kildrum Father: James Sayers Knockavrogeen Farmer Mother: Johanna Sayers formerly Horgan registered: James Sayers father Knockavrogeen 15May 1891

Baptism of a sisterCatherine Sayers
January 24, 1891 (aged 3 years)

Death of a maternal grandfatherTimothy Horgan
January 15, 1892 (aged 4 years)
Prime Minister of the United Kingdom
Robert Gascoyne-Cecil
from July 25, 1886 to August 15, 1892 (aged 5 years)

Birth of a brotherJohn J Sayers
February 15, 1893 (aged 5 years)
Note: Bap says born 15 Feb 1893

Bap says born 15 Feb 1893 Civil record says 21st Mar 1893 Knockavrogeen Kildrum Dingle Father: James Sayers Knockavrogeen Farmer Mother: Johanna Sayers formerly Horgan informant: mother, knockavrogeen registered: 3 May 1893

Baptism of a brotherJohn J Sayers
February 16, 1893 (aged 5 years)

Birth of a brotherMichael Sayers
December 11, 1894 (aged 7 years)
British Queen
Victoria
from June 20, 1837 to January 22, 1901 (aged 13 years)

Prime Minister of the United Kingdom
William Ewart Gladstone
from August 15, 1892 to March 5, 1894 (aged 6 years)

Baptism of a brotherMichael Sayers
December 12, 1894 (aged 7 years)

Prime Minister of the United Kingdom
Archibald Primrose
from March 5, 1894 to June 25, 1895 (aged 7 years)

Baptism of a brotherJames J Sayers
June 2, 1896 (aged 8 years)

Birth of a brotherJames J Sayers
June 3, 1896 (aged 8 years)
Death of a motherJohanna Horgan
August 1, 1896 (aged 9 years)
Note: Her husband was a widower in 1901 census

Her husband was a widower in 1901 census

Lots of her children emigrated to USA shortly after. Sad.

Census March 31, 1901 (aged 13 years)
Prime Minister of the United Kingdom
Robert Gascoyne-Cecil
from June 25, 1895 to July 12, 1902 (aged 15 years)

The Boer War
Battle for control of southern Africa
from October 11, 1899 to May 31, 1902 (aged 14 years)

British King
Edward VII
from January 22, 1901 to May 6, 1910 (aged 22 years)

Prime Minister of the United Kingdom
Arthur Balfour
from July 12, 1902 to December 5, 1905 (aged 18 years)

Prime Minister of the United Kingdom
Henry Campbell-Bannerman
from December 5, 1905 to April 5, 1908 (aged 20 years)

Olympic Games
Games of the IV Olympiad
from April 27, 1908 to October 31, 1908 (aged 21 years)
Death of a maternal grandmotherMargaret Ashe
October 16, 1910 (aged 23 years)
Census April 2, 1911 (aged 23 years)
Death of a paternal grandfatherThomas Sears
January 1, 1915 (aged 27 years)

Religious marriageCatherine BowlerView this family
February 13, 1915 (aged 27 years) Husband: 27 Wife: 25
Address: Ballyferriter Catholic Church
Birth of a daughterHanna Sayers
January 15, 1916 (aged 28 years)
Prime Minister of the United Kingdom
Herbert Henry Asquith
from April 5, 1908 to December 6, 1916 (aged 29 years)

Birth of a daughterMary Sayers
April 1, 1917 (aged 29 years)
The Great War from July 28, 1914 to November 11, 1918 (aged 31 years)

Birth of a daughterBridgette Sayers
March 26, 1919 (aged 31 years)
Birth of a sonJohn Patrick Sears
June 29, 1920 (aged 33 years)
Death of a sisterCatherine Sayers
March 9, 1922 (aged 34 years)
Address: Workhouse
Prime Minister of the United Kingdom
David Lloyd George
from December 6, 1916 to October 23, 1922 (aged 35 years)

Prime Minister of the United Kingdom
Bonar Law
from October 23, 1922 to May 22, 1923 (aged 35 years)

Birth of a sonMichael Sayers
about 1923 (aged 35 years)
Prime Minister of the United Kingdom
Stanley Baldwin
from May 22, 1923 to January 22, 1924 (aged 36 years)

Birth of a sonJames Sayers
about April 2, 1925 (aged 37 years)
Birth of a sonDenis Sayers
December 1, 1927 (aged 40 years)
Birth of a daughterEllen Sayers
February 19, 1930 (aged 42 years)
Note: 19 Feb according to Naturalisation form

19 Feb according to Naturalisation form

Death of a fatherJames Thomas Sayers
1933 (aged 45 years)

Note: Found a Death for James Sayers age 82 died oct-dec…

Found a Death for James Sayers age 82 died oct-dec 1933 which would match. But not enough evidence really. Would need to order certificate.

Update: I found burial info so this is correct

rennybecarole on ancestry has death record 139 Date: 28 nov 1933 Knockavrogeen James Sayers windower age: 82 Farmer Cause: Probably Senile Decay. No Med attend Informant: Bridie Sears present at death Knockavrogeen registered 13 Dec 1933

Burial of a fatherJames Thomas Sayers
December 30, 1933 (aged 46 years)
Cemetery: Kildrum
British King
George V
from May 6, 1910 to January 20, 1936 (aged 48 years)

Prime Minister of the United Kingdom
Ramsey MacDonald
from January 22, 1924 to June 7, 1935 (aged 47 years)

British King
Edward VII
from January 20, 1936 to December 11, 1936 (aged 49 years)

Prime Minister of the United Kingdom
Stanley Baldwin
from June 7, 1935 to May 28, 1937 (aged 49 years)

Death of a brotherDenis Sayers
before 1940 (aged 52 years)

Burial of a sonMichael Sayers
November 15, 1944 (aged 57 years)
Cemetery: Kildrum
British King
George VI
from December 11, 1936 to February 6, 1952 (aged 64 years)

Prime Minister of the United Kingdom
Neville Chamberlain
from May 28, 1937 to May 10, 1940 (aged 52 years)

Prime Minister of the United Kingdom
Winston Churchill
from May 10, 1940 to July 26, 1945 (aged 58 years)

World War 2 from September 1, 1939 to September 2, 1945 (aged 58 years)

Prime Minister of the United Kingdom
Clement Atlee
from July 26, 1945 to October 26, 1951 (aged 64 years)

National Health Service
Free healthcare for all
from July 5, 1948 (aged 61 years)

Olympic Games
Games of the XIV Olympiad
from July 29, 1948 to August 14, 1948 (aged 61 years)
Marriage of a childDavid Mercer RecordHanna SayersView this family
April 16, 1949 (aged 61 years) Husband: 28 Wife: 33
Address: St Francis Church Week Street Maidstone
British Queen
Elizabeth II
from February 6, 1952 (aged 64 years)

Burial of a sisterJohanna Sayers
June 24, 1952 (aged 64 years)
Cemetery: Kildrum
Note: This could be the completely wrong person.

This could be the completely wrong person.

I just thought it was her because...

  • The person given as being responsible is Thomas Sayers
  • I know from talking to relatives that a Johanna Sayers married a Tom O'Shea
  • The age given would match exactly with her DOB

One reason this doesn't seem right is that she emigrated to USA. Did she come back?

Prime Minister of the United Kingdom
Winston Churchill
from October 26, 1951 to April 6, 1955 (aged 67 years)

Prime Minister of the United Kingdom
Anthony Eden
from April 6, 1955 to January 10, 1957 (aged 69 years)

Death of a brotherMichael Sayers
1962 (aged 74 years)

Prime Minister of the United Kingdom
Harold Macmillan
from January 10, 1957 to October 19, 1963 (aged 76 years)

Death of a wifeCatherine Bowler
January 31, 1964 (aged 76 years)
Burial of a wifeCatherine Bowler
February 2, 1964 (aged 76 years)
Cemetery: Kildrum
Prime Minister of the United Kingdom
Alex Douglas-Home
from October 19, 1963 to October 16, 1964 (aged 77 years)

Death February 8, 1964 (aged 76 years) Age: 75
Burial
Cemetery: Kildrum
Family with parents
father
18511933
Birth: June 16, 1851 30 30Knockavrogeen, Kerry, Ireland
Death: 1933
mother
18631896
Birth: February 22, 1863 37 27Gurrane, Kerry, Ireland
Death: August 1, 1896Dingle, Kerry, Ireland
Religious marriage Religious marriageFebruary 17, 1885Ballyferriter, Kerry, Ireland
10 months
elder sister
18851952
Birth: December 14, 1885 34 22Dingle, Kerry, Ireland
Burial: June 24, 1952Knockavrogeen, Kerry, Ireland
16 months
himself
Thomas Sayers
18871964
Birth: June 27, 1887 36 24Dingle, Kerry, Ireland
Death: February 8, 1964Tralee, Kerry, Ireland
23 months
younger brother
18891940
Birth: February 15, 1889 37 25Dingle, Kerry, Ireland
Death: before 1940
2 years
younger sister
18911922
Birth: January 24, 1891 39 27Dingle, Kerry, Ireland
Death: March 9, 1922Dingle, Kerry, Ireland
2 years
younger brother
18931970
Birth: February 15, 1893 41 29Dingle, Kerry, Ireland
Death: 1970
22 months
younger brother
18941962
Birth: December 11, 1894 43 31Dingle, Kerry, Ireland
Death: 1962
18 months
younger brother
18961973
Birth: June 3, 1896 44 33Dingle, Kerry, Ireland
Death: September 1973
Family with Catherine Bowler
himself
Thomas Sayers
18871964
Birth: June 27, 1887 36 24Dingle, Kerry, Ireland
Death: February 8, 1964Tralee, Kerry, Ireland
wife
Catherine Bowler
18891964
Birth: May 19, 1889 33 29Ullugha, Kerry, Ireland
Death: January 31, 1964Tralee, Kerry, Ireland
Religious marriage Religious marriageFebruary 13, 1915Ballyferriter, Kerry, Ireland
11 months
daughter
Hannah Sayers
19161999
Birth: January 15, 1916 28 26Dingle, Kerry, Ireland
Death: 1999Basingstoke, Hampshire, England
15 months
daughter
Mary Sayers
19171989
Birth: April 1, 1917 29 27Dingle, Kerry, Ireland
Death: October 15, 1989Ballyheigue, Kerry, Ireland
2 years
daughter
Delia Sayers
19192003
Birth: March 26, 1919 31 29Dingle, Kerry, Ireland
Death: March 20, 2003London, England
15 months
son
John Sayers
19201976
Birth: June 29, 1920 33 31Dingle, Kerry, Ireland
Death: November 4, 1976Chicago, Illinois, USA
daughter
Private
son
19231944
Birth: about 1923 35 33Dingle, Kerry, Ireland
Death:
2 years
son
Jimmy Sayers
19252008
Birth: about April 2, 1925 37 35Dingle, Kerry, Ireland
Death: April 3, 2008Dingle, Kerry, Ireland
daughter
Private
son
Denis Sayers
19272014
Birth: December 1, 1927 40 38Dingle, Kerry, Ireland
Death: March 17, 2014USA
2 years
daughter
Eileen.jpg
19302016
Birth: February 19, 1930 42 40Dingle, Kerry, Ireland
Death: November 2, 2016Tralee, Kerry, Ireland
son
Private
CensusView

House 3 Knockavrogeen 1901 Irish Census

name rel age occupation marry
James Sayers Head 40 Farmer Widower
Hannah Sayers Dau 15 Farmers Dau Single
Thomas Sayers Son 13 Farmers Son Single
Denis Sayers Son 11 Scholar Single
Catherine Sayers Dau 9 Scholar Single
John Sayers Son 7 Scholar Single
Michael Sayers Son 6 Single
James Sayers Son 4 Single
CensusView

House 1 Knockavrogeen 1911 Irish Census

name rel age occupation marry
James Sayers Head 60 Farmer Widower
Thomas Sayers Son 24 Farm Hand Single
John Sayers Son 18 Farm Hand Single
Kate Sayers Dau 20 - Single
Michael Sayers Son 16 Farm Hand Single
James Sayers Son 15 Scholar Single
Thomas Sayers Boarder 77 Farm Hand Widower
Note

I have birth cert: It gives dob as 27 June 1887 not 1 Apr 1887 as on bap cert. birth was registered on 25 July so 27 June looks more believable

Note

95 5 Mar 1909 Petty Sessions Thomas Sayers Knockavrogeen On the 22nd day of Feb 1909at Quay Street Dingle in said district county defendant was found drunk and incapable on the public street

Defendant convicted and ordered to pay for fine the sum of Two shillings and sixpence and for costs the sum of one shilling in defaut of payment of said sums to be imprisoned Kerry gaol at Tralee in the Co of Kerry for the period of seven days with hard labour unless said sums paid

The only other Thomas Sayers from Knockavrogeen would be his Grandad. Don't know when he dies but probably before 1909 so pretty sure it is this Thomas