Thomas Sayers, 18871964 (aged 76 years)

Name
Thomas /Sayers/
Baptism
April 1, 1887 35 24 (aged )
Birth
Occupation
Farmer
Birth of a brother
Baptism of a brother
Birth of a sister
Note: Civil record says

Civil record says
Kate
10 Apr 1891
Knockavrogeen
Kildrum
Father: James Sayers Knockavrogeen Farmer
Mother: Johanna Sayers formerly Horgan
registered: James Sayers father Knockavrogeen 15May 1891

Baptism of a sister
Death of a maternal grandfather
Prime Minister of the United Kingdom
Robert Gascoyne-Cecil
from July 25, 1886 to August 15, 1892 (aged 5 years)
Birth of a brother
Note: Bap says born 15 Feb 1893

Bap says born 15 Feb 1893
Civil record says
21st Mar 1893
Knockavrogeen
Kildrum
Dingle
Father: James Sayers Knockavrogeen Farmer
Mother: Johanna Sayers formerly Horgan
informant: mother, knockavrogeen
registered: 3 May 1893

Baptism of a brother
Prime Minister of the United Kingdom
William Ewart Gladstone
from August 15, 1892 to March 5, 1894 (aged 6 years)
Birth of a brother
Baptism of a brother
Prime Minister of the United Kingdom
Archibald Primrose
from March 5, 1894 to June 25, 1895 (aged 7 years)
Baptism of a brother
June 2, 1896 (aged 8 years)
Birth of a brother
Death of a mother
Note: Her husband was a widower in 1901 census

Her husband was a widower in 1901 census

Lots of her children emigrated to USA shortly after. Sad.

British Queen
Victoria
from June 20, 1837 to January 22, 1901 (aged 13 years)
Census
Prime Minister of the United Kingdom
Robert Gascoyne-Cecil
from June 25, 1895 to July 12, 1902 (aged 15 years)
The Boer War
Battle for control of southern Africa
from October 11, 1899 to May 31, 1902 (aged 14 years)
British King
Edward VII
from January 22, 1901 to May 6, 1910 (aged 22 years)
Prime Minister of the United Kingdom
Arthur Balfour
from July 12, 1902 to December 5, 1905 (aged 18 years)
Prime Minister of the United Kingdom
Henry Campbell-Bannerman
from December 5, 1905 to April 5, 1908 (aged 20 years)
Olympic Games
Games of the IV Olympiad
from April 27, 1908 to October 31, 1908 (aged 21 years)
London, England
Death of a maternal grandmother
Census
Death of a paternal grandfather
January 1, 1915 (aged 27 years)
Religious marriage
Address: Ballyferriter Catholic Church
Birth of a daughter
Prime Minister of the United Kingdom
Herbert Henry Asquith
from April 5, 1908 to December 6, 1916 (aged 29 years)
Birth of a daughter
The Great War
from July 28, 1914 to November 11, 1918 (aged 31 years)
Birth of a daughter
Death of a brother
1920 (aged 32 years)
Birth of a son
Death of a sister
Address: Workhouse
Prime Minister of the United Kingdom
David Lloyd George
from December 6, 1916 to October 23, 1922 (aged 35 years)
Prime Minister of the United Kingdom
Bonar Law
from October 23, 1922 to May 22, 1923 (aged 35 years)
Birth of a son
Prime Minister of the United Kingdom
Stanley Baldwin
from May 22, 1923 to January 22, 1924 (aged 36 years)
Birth of a son
Birth of a son
Birth of a daughter
Note: 19 Feb according to Naturalisation form
Death of a father
1933 (aged 45 years)
Note: Found a Death for James Sayers age 82 died oct-dec 1933 which would match. But not enough evidence really. Would need to order certificate.

Found a Death for James Sayers age 82 died oct-dec 1933 which would match. But not enough evidence really. Would need to order certificate.

Update: I found burial info so this is correct

rennybecarole on ancestry has
death record 139
Date: 28 nov 1933
Knockavrogeen
James Sayers
windower
age: 82
Farmer
Cause: Probably Senile Decay. No Med attend
Informant: Bridie Sears present at death Knockavrogeen
registered 13 Dec 1933

Burial of a father
British King
George V
from May 6, 1910 to January 20, 1936 (aged 48 years)
Prime Minister of the United Kingdom
Ramsey MacDonald
from January 22, 1924 to June 7, 1935 (aged 47 years)
British King
Edward VII
from January 20, 1936 to December 11, 1936 (aged 49 years)
Prime Minister of the United Kingdom
Stanley Baldwin
from June 7, 1935 to May 28, 1937 (aged 49 years)
Prime Minister of the United Kingdom
Neville Chamberlain
from May 28, 1937 to May 10, 1940 (aged 52 years)
Burial of a son
British King
George VI
from December 11, 1936 to February 6, 1952 (aged 64 years)
Prime Minister of the United Kingdom
Winston Churchill
from May 10, 1940 to July 26, 1945 (aged 58 years)
World War 2
from September 1, 1939 to September 2, 1945 (aged 58 years)
Prime Minister of the United Kingdom
Clement Atlee
from July 26, 1945 to October 26, 1951 (aged 64 years)
National Health Service
Free healthcare for all
from July 5, 1948 (aged 61 years)
Olympic Games
Games of the XIV Olympiad
from July 29, 1948 to August 14, 1948 (aged 61 years)
London, England
Restriction
Show to visitors
Marriage of a daughter
Address: St Francis Church
Week Street
Maidstone
British Queen
Elizabeth II
from February 6, 1952 (aged 64 years)
Burial of a sister
Note: This could be the completely wrong person.

This could be the completely wrong person.

I just thought it was her because...

  • The person given as being responsible is Thomas Sayers
  • I know from talking to relatives that a Johanna Sayers married a Tom O'Shea
  • The age given would match exactly with her DOB

One reason this doesn't seem right is that she emigrated to USA. Did she come back?

Prime Minister of the United Kingdom
Winston Churchill
from October 26, 1951 to April 6, 1955 (aged 67 years)
Prime Minister of the United Kingdom
Anthony Eden
from April 6, 1955 to January 10, 1957 (aged 69 years)
Death of a brother
1962 (aged 74 years)
Prime Minister of the United Kingdom
Harold Macmillan
from January 10, 1957 to October 19, 1963 (aged 76 years)
Death of a wife
Burial of a wife
Prime Minister of the United Kingdom
Alex Douglas-Home
from October 19, 1963 to October 16, 1964 (on the date of death)
Death
February 8, 1964 (aged 76 years) Age: 75
Burial
Family with parents
father
18511933
Birth: June 16, 1851 30 30 Knockavrogeen, Kerry, Ireland
Death: 1933
mother
18631896
Birth: February 22, 1863 37 27 Gurrane, Kerry, Ireland
Death: August 1, 1896Dingle, Kerry, Ireland
Religious marriage Religious marriageFebruary 17, 1885Ballyferriter, Kerry, Ireland
10 months
elder sister
18851952
Birth: December 14, 1885 34 22 Dingle, Kerry, Ireland
Burial: June 24, 1952Kildrum, Knockavrogeen, Kerry
16 months
himself
Thomas Sayers
18871964
Birth: June 27, 1887 36 24 Dingle, Kerry, Ireland
Death: February 8, 1964Tralee, Kerry, Ireland
23 months
younger brother
18891920
Birth: February 15, 1889 37 25 Dingle, Kerry, Ireland
Death: 1920
2 years
younger sister
18911922
Birth: January 24, 1891 39 27 Dingle, Kerry, Ireland
Death: March 9, 1922Dingle, Kerry, Ireland
2 years
younger brother
18931970
Birth: February 15, 1893 41 29 Dingle, Kerry, Ireland
Death: 1970
22 months
younger brother
18941962
Birth: December 11, 1894 43 31 Dingle, Kerry, Ireland
Death: 1962
18 months
younger brother
18961973
Birth: June 3, 1896 44 33 Dingle, Kerry, Ireland
Death: September 1973
Family with Catherine Bowler
himself
Thomas Sayers
18871964
Birth: June 27, 1887 36 24 Dingle, Kerry, Ireland
Death: February 8, 1964Tralee, Kerry, Ireland
wife
Catherine Bowler
18891964
Birth: May 19, 1889 33 29 Ullugha, Kerry, Ireland
Death: January 31, 1964Tralee, Kerry, Ireland
Religious marriage Religious marriageFebruary 13, 1915Ballyferriter, Kerry, Ireland
11 months
daughter
Hannah Sayers
19161999
Birth: January 15, 1916 28 26 Dingle, Kerry, Ireland
Death: 1999Basingstoke, Hampshire, England
15 months
daughter
Mary Sayers
19171989
Birth: April 1, 1917 29 27 Dingle, Kerry, Ireland
Death: October 15, 1989Ballyheigue, Kerry, Ireland
2 years
daughter
Delia Sayers
19192003
Birth: March 26, 1919 31 29 Dingle, Kerry, Ireland
Death: March 20, 2003London, England
15 months
son
John Sayers
19201976
Birth: June 29, 1920 33 31 Dingle, Kerry, Ireland
Death: November 4, 1976Chicago, Illinois, USA
daughter
Private
son
19231944
Birth: about 1923 35 33 Dingle, Kerry, Ireland
Death:
2 years
son
Jimmy Sayers
19252008
Birth: about April 2, 1925 37 35 Dingle, Kerry, Ireland
Death: April 3, 2008Dingle, Kerry, Ireland
daughter
Private
son
Denis Sayers
19272014
Birth: December 1, 1927 40 38 Dingle, Kerry, Ireland
Death: March 17, 2014USA
2 years
daughter
Eileen.jpg
19302016
Birth: February 19, 1930 42 40 Dingle, Kerry, Ireland
Death: November 2, 2016Tralee, Kerry, Ireland
son
Private
Census
Shared note

House 3 Knockavrogeen 1901 Irish Census

namerelageoccupationmarry
James SayersHead40FarmerWidower
Hannah SayersDau15Farmers DauSingle
Thomas SayersSon13Farmers SonSingle
Denis SayersSon11ScholarSingle
Catherine SayersDau9ScholarSingle
John SayersSon7ScholarSingle
Michael SayersSon6Single
James SayersSon4Single
Census
Shared note

House 1 Knockavrogeen 1911 Irish Census

namerelageoccupationmarry
James SayersHead60FarmerWidower
Thomas SayersSon24Farm HandSingle
John SayersSon18Farm HandSingle
Kate SayersDau20-Single
Michael SayersSon16Farm HandSingle
James SayersSon15ScholarSingle
Thomas SayersBoarder77Farm HandWidower
Note

I have birth cert:
It gives dob as 27 June 1887 not 1 Apr 1887 as on bap cert.
birth was registered on 25 July so 27 June looks more believable

Note

95
5 Mar 1909
Petty Sessions
Thomas Sayers Knockavrogeen
On the 22nd day of Feb 1909at Quay Street Dingle in said district county defendant was found drunk and incapable on the public street

Defendant convicted and ordered to pay for fine the sum of Two shillings and sixpence and for costs the sum of one shilling in defaut of payment of said sums to be imprisoned Kerry gaol at Tralee in the Co of Kerry for the period of seven days with hard labour unless said sums paid

The only other Thomas Sayers from Knockavrogeen would be his Grandad. Don't know when he dies but probably before 1909 so pretty sure it is this Thomas